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全国政协委员:经济下行与反腐没直接联系

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(  经)(济)(下)(行)(的)(原)(因)(是)(什)(么)(,是)(反)(腐)(败)(的)(错)(?反)(腐)(败)(与)(经)(济)(发)(展)(究)(竟)(是)(什)(么)(关)(系)(?接)(受)(记)(者)(采)(访)(时)(,全)(国)(政)(协)(委)(员)(、中)(国)(社)(会)(科)(学)(院)(经)(济)(研)(究)(所)(所)(长)(裴)(长)(洪)(就)(上)(述)(一)(些)(问)(题)(作)(了)(详)(细)(的)(解)(答)(。
  “经)(济)(下)(行)(受)(客)(观)(规)(律)(制)(约)(,与)(反)(腐)(败)(没)(有)(直)(接)(联)(系)(”
  问)(:在)(经)(济)(下)(行)(的)(背)(景)(下)(,有)(人)(把)(责)(任)(算)(到)(了)(反)(腐)(败)(头)(上)(。您)(怎)(么)(看)(待)(这)(种)(观)(点)(?
  答)(:毫)(无)(疑)(问)(,把)(反)(腐)(败)(与)(经)(济)(发)(展)(对)(立)(起)(来)(的)(观)(点)(是)(错)(误)(的)(,在)(经)(济)(学)(上)(也)(不)(成)(立)(。
  当)(前)(经)(济)(下)(行)(主)(要)(是)(因)(为)(经)(济)(内)(在)(的)(规)(律)(发)(生)(作)(用)(。
  首)(先)(一)(个)(变)(化)(是)(经)(济)(进)(入)(新)(常)(态)(,表)(现)(为)(增)(长)(速)(度)(在)(下)(降)(,因)(为)(经)(济)(体)(的)(潜)(在)(增)(长)(率)(与)(过)(去)(比)(下)(降)(了)(。什)(么)(叫)(经)(济)(体)(的)(潜)(在)(增)(长)(率)(?指)(其)(内)(在)(经)(济)(功)(能)(在)(没)(有)(外)(界)(干)(预)(的)(情)(况)(下)(自)(然)(达)(到)(的)(增)(长)(水)(平)(。各)(种)(宏)(观)(政)(策)(调)(节)(的)(结)(果)(实)(际)(上)(是)(围)(绕)(它)(上)(下)(波)(动)(,政)(策)(刺)(激)(一)(点)(,可)(能)(比)(以)(前)(增)(长)(高)(一)(点)(,刺)(激)(少)(一)(点)(就)(低)(一)(点)(,但)(总)(体)(都)(是)(围)(绕)(它)(在)(变)(化)(。现)(在)(这)(条)(线)(整)(体)(下)(移)(了)(,下)(了)(一)(个)(台)(阶)(,用)(习)(近)(平)(总)(书)(记)(的)(话)(说)(是)(“换)(了)(一)(个)(档)(”,所)(以)(经)(济)(增)(长)(速)(度)(下)(降)(是)(必)(然)(的)(。国)(家)(宏)(观)(政)(策)(刺)(激)(会)(有)(效)(果)(,但)(效)(果)(就)(是)(在)(这)(个)(档)(位)(波)(动)(。
  所)(以)(,现)(在)(经)(济)(下)(行)(是)(经)(济)(客)(观)(规)(律)(的)(体)(现)(,与)(反)(腐)(败)(本)(身)(没)(有)(直)(接)(联)(系)(,他)(们)(是)(两)(种)(不)(同)(性)(质)(的)(事)(物)(,不)(要)(把)(逻)(辑)(生)(拉)(硬)(扯)(。
  “腐)(败)(破)(坏)(公)(平)(正)(义)(,反)(腐)(败)(优)(化)(了)(市)(场)(环)(境)(”
  问)(:您)(刚)(才)(说)(反)(腐)(败)(与)(经)(济)(下)(行)(没)(有)(关)(系)(,那)(反)(腐)(败)(与)(经)(济)(发)(展)(之)(间)(到)(底)(是)(什)(么)(关)(系)(?
  答)(:反)(腐)(败)(实)(际)(上)(有)(利)(于)(经)(济)(的)(发)(展)(。从)(经)(济)(学)(角)(度)(看)(,反)(腐)(败)(能)(降)(低)(交)(易)(成)(本)(。过)(去)(办)(事)(要)(花)(钱)(,完)(成)(交)(易)(很)(复)(杂)(,自)(然)(就)(提)(高)(了)(交)(易)(成)(本)(,破)(坏)(了)(公)(平)(,而)(通)(过)(反)(腐)(败)(自)(然)(就)(降)(低)(了)(成)(本)(。这)(是)(其)(有)(利)(于)(经)(济)(发)(展)(最)(主)(要)(的)(原)(因)(。
  另)(外)(,腐)(败)(行)(为)(实)(际)(是)(对)(公)(众)(所)(创)(造)(财)(富)(的)(侵)(占)(,直)(接)(损)(害)(了)(整)(个)(公)(众)(利)(益)(和)(国)(民)(财)(富)(,因)(为)(它)(将)(公)(众)(财)(富)(私)(人)(占)(有)(了)(,当)(然)(对)(经)(济)(发)(展)(是)(不)(利)(的)(。通)(过)(反)(腐)(败)(能)(解)(决)(这)(个)(问)(题)(,调)(动)(更)(多)(人)(的)(积)(极)(性)(。所)(以)(从)(长)(期)(来)(看)(,反)(腐)(败)(是)(促)(进)(经)(济)(发)(展)(的)(,而)(不)(是)(损)(害)(和)(阻)(碍)(。
  “反)(腐)(败)(不)(是)(生)(产)(力)(发)(展)(的)(直)(接)(因)(素)(,并)(非)(一)(反)(腐)(败)(经)(济)(马)(上)(就)(上)(去)(”
  问)(:反)(腐)(败)(对)(经)(济)(发)(展)(的)(促)(进)(作)(用)(需)(要)(多)(长)(时)(间)(才)(能)(清)(楚)(显)(现)(?
  答)(:反)(腐)(败)(对)(经)(济)(的)(正)(面)(作)(用)(显)(现)(需)(要)(一)(个)(中)(长)(期)(的)(过)(程)(,不)(会)(短)(期)(立)(竿)(见)(影)(。现)(在)(还)(有)(一)(个)(误)(区)(,认)(为)(一)(反)(腐)(败)(经)(济)(马)(上)(就)(上)(去)(,这)(也)(不)(科)(学)(。因)(为)(反)(腐)(败)(只)(是)(创)(造)(一)(个)(优)(良)(的)(经)(济)(环)(境)(,它)(不)(是)(提)(高)(生)(产)(力)(的)(直)(接)(因)(素)(,经)(济)(学)(不)(是)(这)(个)(逻)(辑)(。直)(接)(的)(逻)(辑)(是)(科)(学)(技)(术)(、生)(产)(工)(具)(等)(的)(进)(步)(,才)(是)(促)(进)(生)(产)(力)(发)(展)(的)(直)(接)(因)(素)(。反)(腐)(败)(只)(是)(创)(造)(一)(个)(良)(好)(的)(市)(场)(环)(境)(,让)(它)(不)(腐)(败)(、变)(得)(透)(明)(,没)(有)(各)(种)(灰)(色)(空)(间)(和)(灰)(色)(成)(本)(,经)(济)(运)(行)(更)(加)(畅)(通)(等)(等)(,而)(不)(是)(直)(接)(推)(动)(经)(济)(发)(展)(。
  我)(举)(个)(近)(期)(的)(例)(子)(,比)(如)(楼)(市)(,房)(贷)(政)(策)(稍)(微)(放)(松)(一)(点)(市)(场)(可)(能)(就)(有)(反)(应)(了)(,你)(说)(它)(跟)(反)(腐)(败)(有)(什)(么)(关)(系)(?没)(关)(系)(。它)(只)(跟)(房)(贷)(政)(策)(等)(经)(济)(手)(段)(有)(关)(系)(。经)(济)(活)(动)(是)(生)(产)(力)(行)(为)(,对)(它)(起)(直)(接)(作)(用)(的)(是)(调)(控)(、刺)(激)(的)(政)(策)(,你)(不)(能)(说)(不)(搞)(反)(腐)(败)(或)(者)(搞)(反)(腐)(败)(楼)(市)(就)(会)(上)(去)(,其)(中)(没)(有)(直)(接)(的)(关)(系)(。
  “把)(眼)(下)(经)(济)(下)(行)(归)(到)(反)(腐)(败)(,意)(思)(就)(是)(不)(要)(反)(了)(嘛)(。”
  问)(:对)(于)(反)(腐)(败)(影)(响)(经)(济)(的)(说)(法)(我)(们)(怎)(么)(看)(?
  答)(:有)(的)(人)(把)(眼)(下)(经)(济)(下)(行)(归)(到)(反)(腐)(败)(,意)(思)(很)(明)(白)(,那)(就)(是)(不)(要)(反)(了)(嘛)(。如)(果)(得)(到)(这)(样)(的)(一)(个)(结)(论)(也)(会)(对)(“四)(个)(全)(面)(”战)(略)(布)(局)(有)(不)(正)(确)(的)(理)(解)(,那)(就)(是)(全)(面)(从)(严)(治)(党)(你)(也)(不)(要)(搞)(了)(,这)(是)(别)(有)(用)(心)(的)(想)(法)(。
  透)(过)(现)(象)(看)(本)(质)(,反)(腐)(败)(是)(激)(浊)(扬)(清)(的)(政)(治)(行)(为)(,让)(那)(些)(品)(行)(差)(、庸)(懒)(散)(怠)(的)(干)(部)(受)(到)(惩)(戒)(,让)(那)(些)(德)(才)(兼)(备)(、遵)(纪)(守)(法)(的)(干)(部)(得)(到)(鼓)(励)(,有)(利)(于)(干)(事)(创)(业)(的)(风)(气)(形)(成)(。这)(都)(是)(对)(经)(济)(健)(康)(发)(展)(的)(有)(利)(因)(素)(。渲)(染)(反)(腐)(败)(导)(致)(不)(作)(为)(的)(现)(象)(,夸)(大)(少)(数)(干)(部)(不)(作)(为)(与)(经)(济)(发)(展)(的)(关)(系)(,忽)(视)(经)(济)(发)(展)(的)(客)(观)(规)(律)(,是)(这)(种)(说)(法)(的)(逻)(辑)(错)(误)(所)(在)(。
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